Understanding
“The warriors of my tribe would call you ‘woman who knows too much and it has made you crazy’. Your curse is that you have to live with yourself.”¸ he said.
That’s Clel, he’s always popping off saying something like that. Something that plain makes me laugh. People call him crazy, too, half Native American, half Mexican, and proud of it. A real firecracker. Of course, it’s his craziness I find thoroughly enjoyable about him. He’s astute, with much insight and, is totally clueless.
My Husband spoke up, “Maybe the curse is living with the rest of us?”
At that, I started to laugh. “It’s a real experience all right. Like living with a bunch of Helen Keller dolls. Ever considered what it’s like to be right in front of someone and not be seen? Run over, run through, bumped into, stepped on, ignored, you name it. I really do try my best to stay out of the way most of the time. It’s ‘safer’ that way.”
My Husband rolled his eyes. “That doesn’t sound very complimentary.”
Depends on how we choose to take it. Offense can only be taken. If our goal is blindness, then I pay Us a compliment of great Respect and Admiration. We have succeeded in our goal. It’s only if we don’t consider ourselves as blind and recognize our goal of blindness, that my statement is less than supportive. I consider myself part of ‘Us’. I’ve been blind. I’ve been deaf. And I sure as hell have been dumb. Maybe not in this lifetime to the extent of others but still blind and deaf and dumb. Being able to admit it and accept it, is the cure for it. I haven’t met a One of Us yet who were ignorant on purpose. We don’t know what we don’t know. We’ve all been there.
Being able to see ourselves as we are, not as wish to be seen, creates the inspiration within us for change. What I know as ‘True Repentance’. When we see ourselves in a mirror and don’t like what we see, we’re inspired to change. If we want to change the reflection, we need to change what’s doing the reflecting. Show thyself improved. It’s like looking at myself in jogging pants and a baggy sweatshirt, inspires me to go change my clothes. Better yet, it’s the picture entitled ‘Vanity’. You know the one I mean. From one perspective, it appears to be a fine lady sitting in front of her dressing table but then you get a good look at it and…it’s a picture of a skull.
I remind Us that Helen Keller was a magnificent woman. She radiated much Light of Understanding into the worlds of those we labeled ‘defective’. She was truly brilliant. Once her world within was unlocked and ways of expression learned, we could all recognize it. It’s the same with the rest of Us, once we begin to unlock what’s within Us.
Brilliance. That’s what within Us. Every single One of Us. To the extent we don’t know it, is the extent our veils are blinding Us to it.”
“Veils?”, my Husband asks.
Blinders, screens, filters that obscure, veils. The only reason everyone doesn’t know what I know, is because of the filters. The filters obscure the Light of Clarity and the Light of Truth.
Try imagining sunglasses instead of veils. If I put on a hundred pair of sunglasses, I wouldn’t be able to see much of anything, if anything. It would appear to me that nothing was there, no matter what was there. Reminds me of a little kid that thinks if they cover their eyes, I can’t see them. If I want to see, I need to start removing the sunglasses, one pair at a time.
It’s the same way with our veils. And these veils are made of our beliefs.”
“What we think?”
“Not necessarily. Our beliefs are what we really feel in our Hearts. Our heads aren’t in contact with our Hearts a lot of the time. Intimacy is a BIG issue for a great many of Us. So whether our thoughts accurately reflect our beliefs is questionable. Sometimes, yes. Most of the time, no. We don’t think we’re blind. We believe we are.
We knock our lights out then complain it’s dark.”
“What do you mean ‘knock our lights out’?”
“We stick a finger in our eye then complain that something’s in it.
We don’t believe we’re capable of knowing ‘God’, so…we don’t.
Like I’ve said, ‘The only way to overlook the obvious is not to look.’
There’s a belief that ‘God’ is beyond a Human Being’s capacity to know and understand. That belief, is what I call ‘knocking our lights out’. It negates our minds, our cognitive ability, our ability to associate ideas, and our capacity of imagination. And let’s not forget our Intuition. This belief in ‘not knowing’ is Ignorance. Perpetual, congenital, ignorance. It has been specifically written that we were made in ‘God’s’ image. Unless ‘god’ is a dumb-ass, there’s no reason we should be.
I don’t accept the idea that ’God’ is beyond our capacity to know and understand. I refuse to negate and dishonor the Ever Loving Mind I have and am Sovereign over. If I divorce myself from my tool of Understanding, then I won’t understand, that’s for sure. Just as poking my eyes out insures I’ll be blind.
It’s simply a matter of perspective who’s really crazy. I’m not crazy; the World is.”
“That’s one of the classic symptoms of being crazy: thinking it’s not you”, says Hubby.
You’re right. I did question myself. Long ago. I ‘studied’ and now show myself improved. I used to be crazy, too, so long as I thought and believed the way the World taught me to think and believe. I was young then. And naïve. The World’s pattern of thought is all conflicted.
I’ve got my own litmus test for crazy: Making sense. I make sense. The beliefs of the World, don’t. If anything, I’m too sane. No matter how long it takes me to talk in circles, I always make a point. And when I do, I’ve come full circle.’
“The only way to overlook the obvious is not to look?”
“Precisely. Once I’ve negated my tool of Understanding, there’s clearly no way I’m going to Understand, no way I’m ever going to experience Understanding and, no way I’m going to respond to life in an Understanding way. I can’t give what I haven’t got.
If we don’t believe we can Understand, we won’t put forth any effort to even try. Understanding being a door that is closed to Us, we’ll concentrate of being ‘right’ instead. We have to ask ourselves what we really believe in. Being Right? Being Righteous? One does not necessarily mean the other.
Blind faith requires we live that Faith, blind, without Understanding. Once Understanding sinks in, we’re not blind anymore. Reminds me of being so desperate for Loving, that we’d use 2 paper bags to ‘make love’ to an ugly hooker. The first bag being to mask her face, the other being used to mask ours, in case hers falls off. That’s what ‘blind faith’ is.
“That sounds awful! What do you really mean?” Clel asks.
“Blind faith asks Us to worship a psychologically ugly persona, ‘the ugly hooker’. ‘Hooker’ because her ‘love’ is extended only through barter. That tells me it’s ‘need’ disguising itself as ‘love’, for genuine Love extends itself freely. ‘Ugly’, because of the beliefs we have painted on her face. Beliefs in Being conditional. Judgmental. Rejecting. Vindictive. Jealous. Angry. Possessive. Abandoning. The face is so ugly the way we paint it, that we have to blind ourselves to it. The bag over her head, masks the hideous face we painted. The bag over our head masks our face, in case hers falls off. For We cannot hide what we truly feel. There is truly and genuinely no way we’re ever going to feel Love and Attraction towards this ugly persona. So we hide our face to mask our shame and deceit. This is a relationship pattern between Us and ‘God’, specifically the Holy Spirit, imagined as one of ‘need’. This isn’t ‘love making’. It’s prostitution, where our emotions are raped at the same time.
I won’t divorce myself from the Universal Principal of cause and effect, reaping and sowing. ‘Adoration’ is a consequence of Being ‘Adorable’. You BE adorable and I’ll adore you. I hardly find the condemning, rejecting and emotionally insecure ‘god’ of the World adorable at all. Far from it. I don’t happen to see Condemnation, Vengeance, Retribution and Abandonment as Loving much less Lovable. This face we paint on God isn’t attractive. The persona is insecure and limited. Not my kind of ideal…a limited unlimited. And the purpose of this ugly face, is to repulse Us. To motivate Us to avoid ‘Intimacy’ at all costs. To ‘Know’ God. To ‘Understand’’ God. The Unconditionally Loving One. With the beautiful face and comforting embrace.
Always embraces all ways.
I admit, my concepts have to do with my choice of values, what I find of value and what I qualify as valuable. To Value means to Love. Here’s a good question: What’s the Value of a value system founded on lack of value? Absolutely nothing. Yet, that’s the value system most of us believe in and are trying to live.”
“A Value system founded on lack of Value?”
“Yes. The World’s Value system is founded on lack of Value. Denial. Specifically, self denial. Denying Loving ourselves Unconditionally. The less Loving it is, the more valuable it is to the majority of Us, since that majority believes in Love only upon condition. This isn’t ‘Love’ in the first place. It’s the lack of it…it’s ‘need’. Us that don’t have, seek to ‘get’, through barter, through trade. And any other means necessary: force, coercion, subversion, extortion, etc. We’ve created a global economy based on emotional insecurity. Loving the lack of Love. See what I mean by crazy? A Value system with no Valuing in it.
And as for this value system’s ‘moral code’, it is essentially a code of conduct for the amoral.”
“A moral code for the amoral?”
“Yes. ‘Moral’ means that which is chosen. What with all the conditions placed on being loved and accepted, freedom of choice is negated. If I take choice out of the picture, then no ‘morals’ are possible. It becomes a code, not of morality but of a-morality. A code of conduct for the amoral.
Any moral code impossible to live, can’t Be lived. But we can try. That’s all we’ve been doing. Trying to make the impossible possible instead of realizing the impracticality and futility of it. Any code that only promises rewards upon death isn’t a code that supports Life. The only way to actually live the code is to die, for Death is the purpose and goal of the code. But it’s important to realize that not just any death will do. The greater the suffering, the supposedly greater the rewards gained from the freedom of the grave. It’s not only Death that is worshipped, it’s death by slow torture that is the pinnacle of this codes moral achievement. And forget about living in Integrity with the code. It’s impossible to both live and die at the same time and place in the same dimension. So long as we live, we live in conflict with this code.
Just as soon as I came to this realization myself, I changed my code. Most of us don’t even realize it’s a code of death we really believe in. We think we Love Life. But Fear of Death is not a Love for Life nor does it bring to Us the Wisdom to support it.
What we worship with every breath of our Life, is death. It’s subliminal for most of us, but it’s there if we but allow ourselves to look and ponder. But we must look seeking Understanding instead of being ‘right’. If there is imagined a possibility of torture, pain and suffering upon Death, then Death becomes feared. This fear, can then be used as a whip to control and enslave populations of People.
If you look around our World, it’s obvious what beliefs are being expressed. Daily. Hourly. Moment to moment. Experiences of separation. Separated from feeling Loved. Separated from Life. Separated from Sense. Separated from each other. Separated from a loving Universe capable of being embraced with open arms. The World uses Swords of Mind to draw lines. I don’t draw lines anymore. And I erased the ones I did have.
My values start with sense, as in making some. E-sense. The goal of my Life isn’t to reach death’s door through as much suffering as possible. The goal of my Life is to live it.
Ponder these thoughts for a while…What’s an ‘All That Is’ got to be jealous of? And Possessive? What’s that all about? What else is there besides ‘All That Is, Was and Ever Will Be’ to possess? To need? That’s goofy. Love extends Itself for the Joy of extending itself. Love doesn’t need anything in return. No conditions. No lines drawn separating reality. No One left out, rejected or abandoned.
I simply refuse to be dumb just as I refuse to be blind. Such is what happens when we open the door to our Hearts and allow the Essence of Understanding in. It’s like light bulbs going off inside Us. One ‘Aha!’ moment after another.
We start seeking to add things up. ‘Adding things up’ being one of the expressions of the Essence of Unity. In order to be ‘Whole’ everything has to add up. Can’t be any part left out or it isn’t Whole. ‘Adding things up’ requires the use of our cognitive faculties in bringing forth the Essence of Understanding, precisely what most religions do not want done.
The Essence of Understanding expresses itself most basically in our ability to associate and relate ideas. We play with ideas in our minds like kids play with blocks. We build concepts. We build beliefs and belief systems. We build cultures, civilizations and societies. This is the faculty of cognitive association and generally speaking, most of us have the use of it. Should we choose to use it.
Sometimes we call this association of ideas ‘thinking’. I’m picky about it. Integration and Integrity are my goals. They come in a package deal with the experiences of ‘Whole’ and ‘Complete’. In order for me to give credit for ‘thinking’, there has to be more to it than a hodge-podge of random ideas associated in such a way that nothing makes sense. ‘Adding things up’ requires the use of Reason. Reasoning is a process that associates ideas in ways where nothing is negated and no contradictions are made. It used to be known as ‘common sense’, since this faculty of Reason is common to All of Us.
According to my Understanding, the thought patterns of our World in no way resemble much in the way of thinking. Proper parroting, I call it. What’s considered ‘proper’ is to Parrot. That’s why I’m ‘improper’ because I don’t Parrot. I’m not reflecting to the World, what the World expects reflected.”
“Parrot?” Clel pipes up. “Nothing sucks seeds like a Parrot.”
“Very funny. I have a different idea of what it means to succeed besides sucking seeds. By ‘parroting’ I mean that the majority of Us have never entertained an independent thought. The only ideas in our heads are those put there by our family, our religions and, our governments. We don’t question. We’re Parrots.
“Bird brains? Asks Clel.
“I didn’t say it; you did. I give the birds more credit.”
“Now you’re getting downright mean.”, says Clel.
“I’m being truthful and honest. ‘Mean’ is a judgment of qualification because you didn’t like what I said. It doesn’t mean I’m ‘mean’. It simply means you didn’t like it.
I don’t give the birds capacity to think. A bird’s brain isn’t that big. It’s not big enough to process information. It’s not big enough to store information, like all the directions needed to fly south for the winter. And since I haven’t spotted any microchips and microphones they all use to communicate when to turn in formation, I know they rely on their senses, specifically their ability to sense gravitational fields. E-senses. Like the basic Essence of Life that acts to support and nurture all Life. ‘Instinct’ in plants and animals. ‘Intuition’ in Human Beings. Same song of Life, just different octaves of expression.
Birds don’t have the same freedom of choice to divorce themselves from their means of awareness as we do. A bird can’t choose to short circuit it’s Love for its own Life. It’s only Human Beings that have the free choice to negate our most basic ‘Instinct’. Our Love for Life. And the majority of Us have done it.
We draw lines of limitation. Endeavoring to emulate an historical ideal that was a product of the imagination of a ragtag bunch of primitive nomadic tribes. Volcano blowing up was understood to mean the ‘gods’ must be displeased. Or better yet, that ‘god’ was offended and demanded some form of restitution in the manner of sacrifice. A god that needs. An impotent Omnipotence.
We, Humanity, didn’t even understand our World was round back then. Even now, we’re somewhat pathetic. There was one of Us knuckleheads spouting off a while ago that Hurricane Katrina was ‘god’s’ punishment for New Orleans being a city of ‘sin’. Notice how blind, ignorant and ‘righteous’ we can be?
If we build our house below sea level, then we shouldn’t be surprised when water comes into our kitchens. Just as if we build our house on the side of an active volcano we shouldn’t be surprised by lava in our living room. Making choices in defiance of reality is one thing. Offending some sort of insecure deity, quite another.
I give most of Us credit for acquiring some smarts over the past few thousands of years. We didn’t stagnate. We’re Living Beings. We’ve grown in our understanding of our World and now, maybe it’s time we grew in our Understanding of ourselves.”
“Primitive nomadic tribes? Are you insulting my tribal culture?’ hollers Clel.
“I’m talking about the nomadic tribes of thousands of years ago, that were interspersed throughout the Middle East and Europe. Our ‘cradle of civilization’ for Western Culture. Our current culture is riddled and infiltrated with primitive beliefs: taboos, fetishes and superstitions. From a time in history when what passed for ‘god’ in our imagination, was simply a bigger version of ourselves and, just as limited in terms of Understanding and Compassion. Later, these beliefs were translated into ‘sins’.
We’re blind to the fact that such beliefs express our own limitations. Where we’ve drawn lines and chosen to pick up swords, repeating the past.”
“You mentioned drawing lines a couple of times. What do you mean?”
“I mean we draw lines when it comes to Loving Life. ‘Life’ is an experience. And we draw lines when it comes to what experiences we willingly embrace with Understanding, Acceptance, Tolerance, Compassion and Mercy. The ‘right & wrong’ bit is simply ‘moral’ cough cough justification for our deplorable lacks in terms of qualities of character. Anytime there is a polarity issue, then a line of separation and limitation has been drawn. What Eastern mystics call ‘Karma’ is nothing more than Self-judgment, where all these lines have been drawn. Look at the relationship we have with Life, with ‘God’, with the Unified Quantum Field. Is it limited? What do we reject? What experiences in Life have we and do we, pick up our swords of Mind, label ‘negative’ and, endeavor to separate ourselves from? Every moment is a Present. Whether that moment is happy or sad. How often are we appreciative and grateful for our Presents?
How much do we Love Life?
It doesn’t matter what side a person chooses in a polarity game, red or blue. A polarity game is a game of separation. It’s why I don’t play. Only losers play games of polarity. And I’m not a loser anymore. It goes something like this: Polarity = Loser. AnyOne of Us living a reality divided into parts, like right and wrong, good and bad, light and dark, etc., has already chosen to live life as a loser, choosing to limit ourselves. The only winning move is not to play the game. And the only way out of it, is through Understanding the Unity of Life, as Christ, and others, have exemplified.
The current Understanding of ‘Christianity’ doesn’t have much Essence of Christ in it. I’d call what we created a ‘Jesus cult’. It’s easy to spot members of a Jesus cult. They’re the ones of Us carrying around crosses and wailing about our roles as suffering martyrs and victims. A Jesus cult worships suffering. One time a fundamentalist asked me if Jesus knocked on my door, would I answer? I said ‘yes’ and went on to say that I would tell him he was welcome in my house, however, he’d have to leave his cross at the door. For Christ already dwells in my house.
Jesus represents carrying around a burden of Guilt. Christ represents freedom from it, through the Essence of Forgiveness. Ones wears a crown of Thorns, the other, carries a Lily. Guilt and Forgiveness are mutually exclusive terms. Not a One of Us going around whipping ourselves or anyone else, with guilt over some imagined ‘sin’ genuinely believes in Christ.
“You’re stepping on quite a few toes, Honey,” says my loving Husband.
“I know. I’ve been accused of being ‘anti-every religion I know’ at one time or another. I never will forget the Holocaust survivor that about blew a fuse when I mentioned ‘reaping and sowing’ and related it to beliefs founded in arrogance, bias, supremacy, and prejudice. Religious arrogance, religious bias, religious supremacy and religious prejudice. They didn’t like it at all when I illuminated that if We don’t want to reap it, then maybe We should quit sowing it. Dissolved the ‘victim’ perspective right out from under them. They went ballistic. It was almost as good as the time on the 4th of July when the boys got the mortars in the wrong shells and they exploded only 8’ in the air. You know I love fireworks, Dear. Smiling.
It’s what I was saying about the difference between what we think and what we believe. We think we’re ‘Christians’ if we think about it at all. “Christian” actually means Christ-like linguistically, when what we truly believe in, is Guilt. Limitation is the World’s Passion. Expansion of the Kingdom, Mine. Nothing separates Heaven from Earth unless I choose to see it that way. This is where the World and I differ. I don’t choose to see it that way.
I don’t idolize man-made nonsense, as in, a limited Unlimited or an impotent Omnipotence. It’s Understanding and Compassion I value, not Condemnation and Rejection. Sooner or later, were all going to realize that the abstract can only be brought down to earth by choice. This requires we cease our knee jerk reactions to judge and condemn, to draw lines and, start building a healthier relationship with Life through Understanding.
Sue Ann, Thank you for directing me to this blogsite of yours. I was able to read just a portion, so far, but I’m looking forward to returning. like this: . . . “Christian” actually means Christ-like linguistically, when what we truly believe in, is Guilt. Those words sum up the Christian world as I once knew it and lived it, but doubt I could have stated it so succintly.
By: mary a. kaufman on February 21, 2008
at 6:42 pm
Hi {{Mary !}} What we have been taught is a hodge podge of contradictions in order to whitewash our self deceit. I like the way {{jon}} over at Jon’s New Age Wanderings put it: “There is a difference between spiritual fruits and religious nuts”.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on February 23, 2008
at 9:32 am
It has been specifically written that we were made in ‘God’s’ image.
I have just now “lifted” those words from your excellent discussion. I can’t help but think back to when those words were first put into Aramaic/Hebrew, some thousand, two thousand and more years before Christ? and wonder from what source the author gleaned such knowledge.
By: mary a. kaufman on April 26, 2008
at 3:52 pm
There are many of Us born who can ’see’ what I’d call “energetic vortices” and it was most likely *this* understanding that was meant {{mary}}.
not the walking talking boob of emotional problems, foremost among them being related to “pecker worship” and Guilt for having one. *that* particular image is one lacking in BOTH Understanding and Compassion.
What a dork!
By: Sue Ann Edwards on April 26, 2008
at 4:54 pm
“There are many of Us born who can ’see’ what I’d call “energetic vortices”. . .
For me, such “understanding”, understanding that needs nothing concrete on which to base the belief, is nothing more than faith in the unseen and unknowable, which is exactly what religion needs in order to be “understood”.
By: mary a. kaufman on May 8, 2008
at 6:42 am
smiling…{{mary}}} when I take one idea and add it to another, without forming a contradiction, then that is “Understanding”. What others call “concrete” is what I call “something that all mixed up and full of holes, that is set”, like a lot of our mental patterns. For these mental patterns are full of holes, full of contradictions.
Something cannot be unseen if we can see it.
As for “unknowable”, there is no such thing, for that idea limits our capacity just believing in it and serves all sorts of religious dogma. There is only the unknown but not an unknowable.
{{hugs}} to you this day.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on May 8, 2008
at 11:15 am
and how do you distinguish between the “unknown” and the “unknowable”?
By: mary a. kaufman on May 8, 2008
at 5:27 pm
No, what I really wanted to ask is this. . . how do you know if or not there is something knowable but unknown?
By: mary a. kaufman on May 8, 2008
at 6:00 pm
To say something/anything is “unknowable” is to negate our cognitive abilities. To Doubt.
Ignorance simply implies unlearned, not inability of mental function to learn. Learning is seeking to know, seeking to understand. And I have to desire it before I will assume the mental discipline it requires.
To say there is an “unknowable” is the same thing as sticking a finger in my eye, then declaring I can’t see. If I negate my tool OF understanding, which is my cognitive capacity to add ideas together, then there is no way I’m ever going to understand that’s for sure.
It’s like colors to a blind person. Not being able to see them, doesn’t negate the fact that others, can. To the blind, they don’t exist, where to those of us who can see, they very much do.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on May 8, 2008
at 6:39 pm
In the first place, an “anything” or a “something” has to exist, and if it exists, it is capable of being known. However, something that is believed to exist—for no other reason that mankind has come to believe it, or they exist—is the unknown and therefore, unknowable.
By: mary a. kaufman on May 9, 2008
at 6:08 am
{{Mary}} I don’t mean to be unkind, however, nothing in that statement makes any sense. There are too many contradictions.
Unless of course, your purpose was to try to prove that statement, that thoughts don’t exist in your head. Which simply expressing anything, contradicts that.
Thoughts exist {{mary}}
But ‘you’ nor ‘I’ can measure them with any 3rd dimensional standard.
The question remains, Whom is the Thinker of the thoughts in your head? I say ‘you’ are and no other. Just as I am Sovereign over the thoughts in mine.
As a result of the type of thought we think, so shall we feel, so shall we create a peptide, a brain chemical, to match.
I also add, that anyTHING and everyTHING made, First existed in the mind of someone, an inventor, an engineer, who by the power of their cognitive associations, created the exact ‘thing’ they had in mind. If Ford and others had never invented a car, then no one would have ever thought to desire it.
It all depends on choices as to whether we do our own thinking or wait for our parents, our ‘preachers’ , our governments and our ad agencies to tell us what to think. I call it our responsibility and accountability for having a volition Will. And by not claiming this accountability, we have no cause to complain how rotten or miserable our lives are.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on May 9, 2008
at 9:39 am
I guess I failed rather miserably in getting my point across. I’ll try again. Thoughts are concepts and not capable of of being called “things”by anyone until put into a solid form. There was a time when the wheel was unknown and therefore did not exist. One day, probably after watching the ease with which a log could be rolled across the ground, some one came up with a “concept”, not a “thing”, resulting in the invention of the wheel. Without the materials with which to create the wheel. the wheel would have remained a concept and therefore, an unknown quanity.
Well, I place God, and really, that’s what all this has been about, in the same category as the wheel, except when it came to the wheel, there was solid material with which the wheel could become a reality. Early man, needing an explanation for all things, both good and evil, and, having a brain, capable of asking questions—for which there were no visible answers— had only “concepts” for answers. Later, language was put into writing and with words, concepts could be explained in print, but words prove nothing! They comfort, but prove nothing.
I do not have to read about a wheel in order to believe it exists. I know it exists. I can see a wheel. I can touch a wheel. However, God, angels, devils, demons, spirits—both good and bad—were and still are, concepts, nothing more. All the words in the world cannot bring them into actual existence.
I have no problem with those are conforted by spiritual things, but I do have a problem with those who think I’m missing something important in my life, but too naive to understand their “understanding”.
By: mary a. kaufman on May 9, 2008
at 2:03 pm
{{mary}} I would suggest that your understanding of quantum physics is a bit rusty, for both thoughts and feelings are very tangible. It is simply a matter of sensitivity and how numb we have made ourselves to be.
If you do not “understand”, I fault you not. Neither do I care, really. Your life is your life. But what I say is this:
NOT being accountable for the ideas, concepts and perceptions in our heads is called License, not Liberty.
I cite your whole perspective on the matter. One of judgment and condemnation. No understanding is possible to you since you have made that choice to separate yourself from it.
Notice the phrase on my blog “it is not with our eyes that we see reason and it is not with our eyes that we see humor.” These discussions are using that minds eye and tho you do have one, it takes an act of will to use it.
No, I do not consider you naive, just blind and ignorant, then same as the rest of us, and if you disagree that you are not one of us, then I say that is the definition of being self righteous.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on May 9, 2008
at 5:30 pm
Let’s leave quantum physics, out of the discussion for a while because:
I quote you: “We don’t believe we’re capable of knowing God, so we don’t.”
Your entire article depends on a belief in God. Although you use the word “we”, you really mean all those who fail to agree with you. What you wrote says that you know there’s a God and I’m just too pig-headed, or too ignorant to understand. I’m curious. Other than what you have read, or have been told about God, by what means do you ascertain the reality of God? How do you know God is knowable if we but leave ourselves open to the idea? The human brain is capable of believing anything and everything, but one of its greatest mysteries is the abilty to question and to doubt. I’m a questioner and a doubter.
By: mary a. kaufman on May 9, 2008
at 7:04 pm
This will be my last comment. I like intelligent people and you are an extremely intelligent person. I think of myself as intelligent, but I have difficulty dealing with anything I must accept on “faith”. I doubt we’d ever see eye to eye on the metaphysical. I shall continue to visit your website but hereafter, keep my thoughts and opinions to myself. Nice “talking” with you.
By: mary a. kaufman on May 9, 2008
at 7:23 pm
I repeat…
it DOESN’T matter whether I use the term “god” OR the term “life” OR the phrase “Unified Quantum Field”, they all mean the same. They are terms describing the Perspective of the WHOLE, which everything and everyone that has ever existed is part of.
And a “part” can deny the WHOLE all the part wants but it does not negate the Whole, just the part’s perception of it.
Self Awareness of your own thoughts and how these thoughts FEEL, then you could have your proof, your very much tangible proof, coming through your own sensitivity and awareness.
I don’t ask anyone to accept anything on faith. I guide to LISTEN to what your Heart says in response to whatever thought you are thinking. And if this thought doesn’t feel loving and embracing, then you have the choice of not believing it.
It’s called being “Self Nurturing, instead of not and, seeking others to nurture us instead.
And I say “we” because unlike “you”, I’m not judgmental and rejecting, trying to separate myself from whatever ignorances we care to express.
And I notice you have nothing to say when science steps in “proving” not only what you believe is solid, isn’t but that thoughts and feelings carry weight too, when it comes to quantum physics.
In the “olden days” is used to be known as substance of character. It is no feat of character to understand the understood, to accept the acceptable, to tolerate the intolerable or to forgive the forgivable. Any nitwit that can do that.
I’m talking about self development of coping skills and actually expanding them through genuine substance of character. For I’ll be honest with you {{mary}}, I bet all your life people have been judging and condemning you, for that is what you radiate in your own self expression. And I doubt you’re even AWARE of it.
But you do reap as you sow. And always have, too.
Just the same as the rest of us.
And I have spent enough time and attention answering your questions especially when you do not think about any of the answers given. You do not contemplate or ponder; there is no DEPTH to your thoughts. Because of it, you’re blind {{mary}}, your mind closed and you living in the little box of it.
You do not have the capacity TO understand, for you have expressed you are not an Understanding person to begin with. I have been very understanding of you, embracing your humanity as I would any one else’s. However, you are not at Liberty to make demands upon others, to demand being spoon fed simply because you need it fed to you that way.
Start increasing your own abilities. It is not only your Responsibility but your Gift.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on May 9, 2008
at 10:33 pm
Since posting this comment, I have been barraged by at least 8 comments, all from {{mary}}, all blathering nonsense. Whining, complaining, petulant, judgmental, rejecting, name calling…a veritable black hole of emptiness as far as any inner substance of character.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on May 11, 2008
at 11:35 am
Flippin heck – brain overload!!!!
Great stuff Sue Ann but I might have to bite off a bit at a time and digest it slowly.
I love playing thought games like Einstein did when he came up with relativity. I’ve often wondered how many people would still be in their marriage/relationship if they could get all the love they needed from the first person they met when they walked out of their front door in the morning.
I mean, how can you shut yourself down and not love everyone the same without losing something important.
When I was a teenager relationships looked kind of like this to me…. (come to think of it most still do)
Hay babe, if we’re the same as everyone else we can’t be special can we? I would hate not to be special wouldnt you? I’ll make you a deal, to make orselves feel special and loved, lets create an exclusive little club that no one else can be in except us 2. If we can have kids they can join too but absolutely no one else is allowed in.
To be honest (which I wont be just incase you decide to be too and I hear something I know allready but don’t want to hear you say), I want to share myself with other people but if I do, you might want to as well and then I don’t know if I’ll get the all love I need from you exaclty when I want it. Maybe you might find something better than me too. Thats not fair though because I cant’ get what I need anywhere else cos everyone else is in little 2 person clubs too and I put all my eggs in your basket so… I’ll make you adeal, if you shut everyone else out and only love me and pretend I’m special and better than everyone else, I’ll do the same for you.
Just one thing though, if you ever stop giving me everyhting I need it will hurt me so much becase I’m not getting what I need anywhere else and I’ll that I will hate you forever and might even kill you.
Love only exists without need
By: Visionary on May 16, 2008
at 3:03 pm
“You support my illusions and I’ll support yours.”
And the reason is it never a satisfactory nor fulfilling type of relationship is because nothing about it is Real. It’s all based on maintaining illusions.
“You help me avoid dealing with my own demons and I’ll help you avoid dealing with yours.” That’s the deal. It is a matter of a contract for services rendered. It’s bartering for ACTS of affection. But that’s all they are, acts.
And most of the time in our hearts we *know* this already but don’t want to admit it. But what we’re also not admitting and recognizing, is the obvious fact that to our own hearts, we are NOT being True. Self Betrayal.
And in accord with: Reaping what we sow AND
quantum physics of a negative field will attract a negative pole AND the Law of Attraction…
experiences of being betrayed is what we’re going to attract to us. Over and over and over, no matter how many people we try relating to or with. Every relationship will be a mirror of our inner one, where we betrayed ourselves by not being True to what our own hearts were telling us.
We ran away into our mental realms of abstraction, instead. Or at least that’s what a lot of us do and have done, in order to escape from the constant pain of our inner betrayal.
Like I was just responding to {{cordieb}}, I know this ~conception~ of Unconditional Love takes time to sink in because it’s so very different then all the mental gymnastics of trying to determine right from wrong and good from bad. There is only what is Loving.
We all goof up. We’ve all made mistakes. We’re all ignorant in some way shape or form. So instead of trying to hide all this inside of us, hoping no one will ever see, it’s time to admit we all have them…skeletons in our closets. The parts of ourselves that we aren’t exactly proud of.
The way we have been taught to deal with these ‘parts’ of ourselves, is to condemn and reject…a statement of desiring to separate ourselves from them. “Bad part, go away.”
What I am endeavoring to share is that these parts need to be understood, not abandoned and locked inside our own personal hells.
It is time to open our hearts and love that which has not been loved. Break down the gate across our hearts and let Light stream forth into our darkness.
When we are without need, we are FREE to Love.
For instead of looking to get, we seek to share what we have.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on May 17, 2008
at 1:50 pm
I remember reading once, that there is nothing new under the sun, and all that there is, is within us as well. I liked this, when I thought of it, it just felt that when we come upon something that we feel is new, it is new to us, but it is old as well, in that it has always been there, we might just not have seen it before.
It is like when I read about the stars, planets, comets, they have always been there, and there are more than what we are aware of, and when discovered they are new to us, but they are old as well, because really they have always been there, maybe it is just our understanding of them that is new.
By: tumel on September 7, 2009
at 6:24 am
The quote is from Ecclesiastes, Chapter 1, verse 9.
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is nothing new under the sun.”
Which basically means even though the names, times and places change, the experiences of ‘happy’, ’sad’, ‘angry’ blissful’ ‘betrayed’, disappointed, etc. never change.
The props and scenery may change but the play of Life is all the same.
By: Sue Ann Edwards on September 8, 2009
at 3:03 pm
I remember once:) Sueann, when I first got my ears pierced, I was so happy! I went around telling everyone what the doctor did, what he used to freeze my ears, how it felt, and how I loved the little gold circles and the tingling in my ears getting used to them. My older sister ((hugs hugs to her:))) turned around at one point and said to me, What are you talking about? this is nothing new, I had my ears pierced before you! and I remember thinking in my head, (trying to oust her maybe:)) yeah,it might be old to you but it is new to me! I wonder now if thats why I liked this saying:)
By: tumel on September 9, 2009
at 6:28 am
(smiling) It brings us together. It brings us closer to each other on intimate levels, because these are all experiences we share in common.
I think that was the meaning of Solomon’s statement. Here we are 1000’s of years later and still quoting him! (poor guy, he never did understand women)
By: Sue Ann Edwards on September 9, 2009
at 7:16 am